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New team
Hello, and welcome to the new Community Portal! Due to much of the MicroWiki Community moving to another wiki host location, I have decided to adopt this form of MicroWiki with the help of User:daNASCAT (Thank you!). I hope that MicroWiki can now become a friendlier, less restrictive community of micronational leaders and whoever else is interested in joining this wiki.

If you have any concerns, questions, or suggestions, you are welcome to post them in the Discussion section below.

I am now looking for some new administrators who would be interested in helping out with the tasks that administrators do, most notably maintaining the wiki. If any of you would be interested in becoming an administrator of the new MicroWiki team, please feel free to nominate yourself here. Thank you, and have a great day all of you! Kyng Fyrst 20:23, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

Nominations

 * I am Going to Nominate: Alexander Reinhardt, Philip Fish, Aldrich Lucas, Peter Bralesford, and any other rightfully elected admin
 * I'd like to accept the nomination as Administrator :) --Cajak [ ★MicroWiki Admin★ ] 18:53, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I had previously nominated myself, but I respectfully withdraw my candidacy. Thank you and best wishes! ~Madam Secretary of State Victoria Bristow Starland 04:12 November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. I respectfully nominate myself again. I see that Cajak has nominated himself, so I think I will too. I just don't want others jumping all over me or Starland. ~Madam Secretary of State Victoria Bristow Starland 20:30 November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll help if you want (by thati am nominating myshelf, nyahnyahnyah)B.C.E.R.Neil, Copy Editor and President of T.F.Erephisia (and a good day to you) 10:46, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

--Secundomia (talk),(Contributions),(blog),(followed pages) 17:28, November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like to help, because I would like to make sure that co.cc and this one have close enough ties so that the communities should remain together.
 * User:Secundomia has been asked to join the team and we are currently awaiting his response. Kyng Fyrst (talk) 18:55, November 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I will tentatively nominate myself. HolySalanianEmpire 23:50, November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * User:HolySalanianEmpire has joined the team. Welcome! :) Kyng Fyrst (talk) 18:55, November 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I, Karan Singh Rathore-Prime Minister of Rajputistan Empire nominate myself for the admin elections..... Rajputistan 11:21, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion
If you have any concerns or requests, you are welcome to express your thoughts. Kyng Fyrst 20:44, November 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I have some things to say, like the fact that this stinks of underhanded secrect politics and power hogging, the fact that with out the community's approval you and the Wikia Staff have come and total disregared our oppinions and democratic vote and staged what amounts to a coup d'état. so I request that insed of tearing the community assunder you restore what damge has been done and put everyone back to their right fully elected place.HMZ Government 02:31, November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. This is not a matter of politics or power, this is about the MicroWiki community of users. What damage do you speak of? Kyng Fyrst (talk) 16:44, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * First of all, Your Majesty, please calm down. I don't think what they're trying to do is divide the wiki community. Frankly, I think what they are doing is just have someone here who may moderate the archives and ask people to kindly move to the new wiki. I myself want only for people to move over and for our community to be united. However, I think the continuous moving of the MicroWiki has already divided the community. We have already lost several prominent members. I'm not saying that this will improve the situation, but for now it could provide a way for us to clear up any questions and confusion that others may have and point them in the right direction. That is simply my opinion of what I think is going on. If I am completely off, then may the heavenly spirits strike me where I stand. ~Madam Secretary of State Victoria Bristow Starland 04:09 November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the new wiki's aren't the greatest so I am going to centralize my work here. However, if you are going to assemble a new admin team, they need to be able to sift out the trouble makers like Pugguinia and Danvania. They also need to be quite handy at copy editing as this wiki has a fair few problems that need to be rectified. A copy editor and someone veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery calm would be ideal


 * B.C.E.R.Neil, Copy Editor and President of T.F.Erephisia (and a good day to you) 13:37, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * P.S. calm yourself your Majesty


 * I implore that His Majesty of Zealandia continue his rant and not calm down the slightest. This is a joke, a lie, an insult and a complete disregard to and for what the community (THAT MOVED) has done. Most of all the work people have put into it. I am furious at this act. I had respect for most of the people in this plot until they went and did this. I have zero respect for those people now. What you are doing is only going to cause pain and no good will come of it. I can't beleive this at all. You all need to think before acting, not acting before thinking. Why do you have to try and sabotage this great thing of micronationalism?
 * James Wilary of the People's reformed States Republic 17:51, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * James, Comrade I shall not calm down until we are restored to what was and is the will of the people, I will fight this sneaky underhanded and treaturoius coup d'état with all my might, the fact that one bloke has come in and disregared everything we have voted for and worked hard for for what, Personal gain!?! Power!?! whatever!?! and now this impostion of new rules well its just going to turn what was to be our archives into dictorship of a wik against the will of the people HMZ Government 18:48, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I do admit that this idea that Mr The Kyng had is pretty groovy (Erephisian Slang: Groovy=Generalized negative remark) HOWEVER it is worth noting that alot of the community is still faithful to this microwiki, and can make their own choice as to where they would rather be. Also, Kyng is just ascertaining that this wiki isn't just lost. Frankly I am appaled at all your actions and think that you should be ashamed of yourself. Losing complete respect for someone because of an idea they had, no matter how drastic, verges on prejudice. B.C.E.R.Neil, Copy Editor and President of T.F.Erephisia (and a good day to you) 22:04, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Excuse me but how can you for one moment say what you have just said, we last time I check are one community that you wish to break into two and this realy hurts and I quote "the results of the poll will not be considered a fair vote, for they no longer associated with MicroWiki here at Wikia" well what the sodding hell am I doing then? and how for one second is my vote not fair I cast it my self or is it that you a dictator just cant get your own way from this vote eh? and for the last time stop refering to these two seperate communites as their is only one which at the moment it would seem you are deterined to tear the community I love in half and I dont like that one bit. Anthony, King of Zealandia. HMZ Government 15:05, November 21, 2010 (NZDT)
 * I'm not saying we should completley shatter the community, I'm just sayin it would be illogical to end this wiki and move entirely RIGHT NOW. Maybe after everyone move OF THEIR OWN ACCORD then can this wiki be left as an archive or removed. B.C.E.R.Neil, Copy Editor and President of T.F.Erephisia (and a good day to you) 17:49, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then I ask you: Why are you still here and have not left "of [your] own accord"?! Just leave it as a damn archive for crying out loud. Leave! Go away! Shoow! What is wrong with leaving RIGHT NOW anyway? It is like some strong force is keeping you back and you will not tell us what it is! And the illusion that the community is somehow "unfriendly" is a complete construction of your own imagination. Come up with a reason based in reality, not in fiction.
 * James Wilary of the People's reformed States Republic 06:18, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Why do you not want to moove? Rsmall1413 02:27, November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Mr. Fyrst desires a community that is friendly, "unlike" the old wiki. I don't know, really :S
 * --Secundomia (talk),(Contributions),(blog),(followed pages) 02:29, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I actually want to remain active both here and at Microwiki.co.cc. Both of them are great communities, and shouldn't go to waste. :) Kyng Fyrst (talk) 16:44, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * What om Earth?! What do you mean "they are both great communities"?! This is no longer a community, it is a collection of written articles archived here. The community is now over there! There is nothing here anymore to even "go to waste"!
 * James Wilary of the People's reformed States Republic 06:20, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Withdrawal of Nomination
I wish to unilateraterally withdraw my nomination as admin of this Wiki. This move was dirty and underhanded, and this Wiki was abandoned for a good reason, and the move was also voted for by the community. This is an insult to the work that Mr Fish and I have put in to the new site, and this is an insult to the community itself.

We have moved to microwiki.co.cc, and will not be moving back. Thank you.

--Demontux 10:51, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am sorry you feel that way about this. Many of you have done a great job with the new wiki. This was not intended as an insult, but rather as wise usage of what has been provided. It is the people's choice whether they wish to stay here, stay at microwiki.co.cc, or both. Kyng Fyrst (talk) 16:44, November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh please, the community voted to leave a month ago. You yourself voted I don't mind the new skin and we should tolerate it, but I will yield to a community decision...This is yielding to a community decision? I'd hate to see what happens when you ignore the community decision.  Aldrich Lucas   talk  •  contributions  20:27, November 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Mr. Lucas, you do realize Mr. Reinhardt has accepted a nomination right. I think that says it all. ~Madam Secretary of State Victoria Bristow Starland 20:32 November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * ...Okay, I'll give you the fact that you don't ever go on the OAM Forums. But seriously...read this thread, in particular this post. Reinhardt hardly loves Wikia and Kyng right now.  Aldrich Lucas   talk  •  contributions  20:40, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

I will read it. But in case u did not read the post below this one. Cajak clearly has accepted the nomination for admin on this wiki as well. ~Madam Secretary of State Victoria Bristow Starland 20:59 November 18, 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand your logic, gentlemen. You said yourself that prominent members (such as yourselves and Mr. Fish) have abandoned this community, so why do you care if it gets new leadership, or if members continue to edit here? They are free to do so, as I see it. No one was forced to move.

And Aldrich, I think that the Kyng has the authority and privilege to do as he pleases regarding this community. HolySalanianEmpire 23:28, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Hang on...
I, like so many others on MicroWiki, have endured the move to ShoutWiki, Referata and finally our own dedicated website. I thought we'd agreed to leave Wikia alone, so why's it lighting up with activity again? Not a criticism or anything, I'm just really confused.

Mind you, I find myself coming back here, typing articles and then taking the HTML code back to our site. We need a better editor on that one, something like what we have here on Wikia?

If someone could enlighten me as to why Wikia's suddenly the place to be, I would be very appreciative.

Daniel Anderson, Premier of the Federal Commonwealth of Sirocco since 2010. Nemine Contradicente. 21:00, November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * The new MicroWiki is open for business, but this original one is also staying open for anyone who wishes to continue editing here. I hope this answers any questions you have. Kyng Fyrst (talk) 21:05, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Charter
I would like to recommend a governing document for the New Order of the community. Perhaps something like this? HolySalanianEmpire 23:51, November 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Most, if not all, of those points look like excellent ideas that would improve MicroWiki. Kyng Fyrst (talk) 00:30, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the charter and I liked the way things were going on MondayHMZ Government 03:35, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why can't we all unify on one wiki Rsmall1413 04:44, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * well we as a community voted to move to a new wiki place and leave this one as an achive untill Kygn Fyrst staged his CoupHMZ Government 07:57, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please explain how this is a coup. If this community was abandoned, didn't that leave the mantle of leadership up for grabs? Why do you guys care if someone new takes charge here, if you gave it up? HolySalanianEmpire 12:23, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Community was not "abandoned" it moved to the wiki along with all of our articles and you ask how is this a coup kyng fyrst has through the use of a corporate wikia person userped the elected admins of there people given power and is using it him self to push new policies and to disregard our community's vote for
 * what!?! Power!?! A nice felling when he goes to bed knowing what hes done!?!
 * I don't get this charter at all.
 * Secundomia (talk),(Contributions),(blog),(followed pages) 16:26, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Poll notice
The community at MicroWiki.co.cc still desires to have a say in this wiki's maintenance, even after their move. They've started a poll, expressing their main desire to keep this MicroWiki here at Wikia inactive. While their results and discussions are currently available at User:A-One/Voting on the Future, the results of the poll will not be considered a fair vote, for they no longer associated with MicroWiki here at Wikia. However, their opinions will be heard, and our team is currently trying to resolve the dispute. We apologize for any inconvenience. Kyng Fyrst (talk) 22:54, November 20, 2010 (UTC)