Board Thread:Admin Announcements/@comment-24485780-20140801102558/@comment-5843134-20140802043537

MilezTailzPrower wrote: UCS123 wrote: Sabovia wrote: UCS123 wrote: Sabovia wrote: UCS123 wrote: Sabovia wrote: I'm sorry to tell you, but the "British English rule" is here to stay.

The "Not being allowed to discuss anything dealing with space or other planets if "colonization" is mentioned (yet people can claim Antartica which violates The Antartic Treaty of 1959)" is not actually a rule and neither is "Not being allowed to discuss actions of tribunals and internal affairs regarding ONLY members of any micronation organization." If you guys want everything to spelled the British English way I can understand how you want to increase article conformity with the english microwiki community. But forcing us to use British English word choice is a terrible idea. Since when was baseball ever called rounders? And I have never heard anyone in my life use the term anti-clockwise over counterclockwise. Yes I'm an American and I do respect the usage of British English (I use to live in the Republic of Ireland). However, controlling terminology is unneccessary, especially since it can change the meaning of what you are talking about when put into context.

So if you want to go the British English ONLY route and be unaccepting of other people's word choice, then maybe we should have an American English and British English microwiki community. We already have a community for traditional Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Of course when putting this topic into perspective, most reasonable people would just drop the British English only rule.

Sabovia, you say that those two things I mentioned are not "actually" rules.... Yet I have been threatened with bans from Admins for being involved in both activities. So to clear things up, am I allowed to do what I did? Most wikis are written in one version of English only. We are helping users learn British English (read this guide).

I don't see why you strongly oppose this rule, we need to help this wiki, and to do so we need some consistence.

So again, the British English rule is here to stay. If you need help changing the variation of English on your article don't be afraid to ask. "I don't see why you strongly oppose this rule, we need to help this wiki, and to do so we need some consistence." Again.... Do you not understand what I mean by terminology AKA word choice? If you guys "think" you are trying to improve microwiki by keeping language spelling the same, okay I understand. HOWEVER whenever I write an article on microwiki, Drug store will never be chemist, parking lot will never be car park, counterclockwise will never be anti-clockwise, soccer (depending on the context) will never be football, baseball will never be rounders lol, and trunk will never be boot. NOW, I will respect that you Admins prefer organisation over organization, centre over center, and colour over color. To be honest, I would think that having a database composed of articles that include multiple english variations would NOT bother any learned person... But whatever. You're saying we cannot enforce the rule? That's where you're wrong, we have a bot (Law Enforcer 2000) who is programmed to recorrect mistakes and make pages up to scratch. He is also programmed to change American English to British English. The rule can easily be enforced. And refusing to write your article in British English is a blockable offense, you are free to refuse to, but I'm afraid the consequence will be a permanent block.

No one is immune from this rule. "refusing to write your article in British English is a blockable offense". Oh god. I'm so terrified now. A permanent block will ruin me forever lol. Give me a break. You know I said earlier that I won't post another article on microwiki. In fact I rarely update my current article. That's the thing about microwiki, the more you become active, the more that your activity is critiqued. And I have talked to other members of this community who have now become less active because of that. You guys want to improve microwiki, but you guys completely forget the fact that in the process you are unintentionally pushing away people from the micronational community. And if you continue to do it then there's almost no point in "improving microwiki".

Sab, I think you guys have difficulties with enforcement. It's often inconsistent, it lets Admins avoid penalties, and it's been done in ways that sometimes have been unfair. If you had a survey of all of the somewhat active members on microwiki, i bet you that a majority of people would agree with me. And I say that because in my short few months of being here since February, I have seen these clear violations!!! And some of your guys rules don't even say the same things. Take the newsfeed policy for example, under Newsfeed Policy it says: "Newsfeed contains maximum of ten messages, no more, no less". However, under Add More News  it says "Keep the number of headlines at EIGHT: no more, no less". But at anyrate, your guys' standards are all over the place.

You want consitency where it matters least, and then forget about where it is most needed... Just great I agree, I know your trying to do you job Sabovia, but I think you let you position go to your head. Don't forget, America has 300 million people (I know less then 5% of then come on here, so don't bring that up.) the point is why don't you guy just create a vote, let the people decide weither it should be American or British English. It's the democratic way. your way is well, the dictatorial way. MicroWiki stands with Wikipedia, MicroWiki uses a consensus (when the stronger argument wins, even then the MicroWiki Foundation have the final say), democracy is a terrible way to run an encyclopedia.

You're also acting like I have supreme power over all rules, I might also need to remind you that our rules are established by the MicroWiki Foundation, which is not just me, the "British English" rule wasn't even suggested by me. I (like every other admin) enforces rules, we may miss a few rule breakers, but we're only human.

Banning users who refuse to rewrite their articles (or have their article rewritten) in British English is completely reasonable. We won't ban users if their pages aren't in British English, only if they refuse to have them in British English.

Now, as this this discussions is completely irrelevant to the subject in hand, I suggest you drop it.